Finn (from the Smoke Signal): What is your role here at this protest?
Peter: A supporter, and also, I’m a major sign maker.
F: For this volunteer organization, Indivisible, or just like, for all protests?
P: All protests, you know. Indivisible is definitely part of the team here, but this is not an indivisible event, really. And most of the people here are just like me. They just come [to these protests].
F: So, my first question is, why are you here? Why come out and protest? Was there anything specific that made you want to come out and protest?
P: The only answer to that is, where do I start?
F: What do you think the effect of these [protests?] are? Is it to spread awareness, get people involved, that sort of thing?
P: Well, both [spreading awareness and getting people involved]. Today, we have at least three times as many people. We’re here every Saturday at the same time, and we have at least three times as many people as before. And to put it kind of bluntly, the murder of Renee Good is likely to be a turning point for the nation in the way that Kent State was a turning point for Nixon in 1970.
F: What have you seen specifically about the change in immigration process from racially profiling or blatantly kidnapping people off the streets that made you want to come out here and try to support the cause?
P: Until these thugs, which is really what ICE is, took over the organization of immigration control, immigration control was part of the standard judicial process within the United States. Due process [would be] applied if someone [were] subject to being deported. There would be a hearing, there would be [the] ability to take advantage of all the typical judicial rights and privileges which are yours as anyone who happens to be in the US, not just a citizen. My primary objection to how it’s being managed now is the abandonment of due process. Because without due process, there is no justice. [Now], we are not a nation of laws; we are a nation of opinions, like the opinions of the administration.